The marks are in from 3DA012 Roger’s 2 week long test of a 4 element Moxon against a 4 element Quad with some startling results noted.
Roger has included QSO data from a number of his contacts with DXCC (Netherlands, Liechtenstein), and IOTA stations (including Tahiti, Java, Demarchi, Kendek, Moorea, Rarotonga) in different continents, in different hemispheres, over varying distances and signal paths.
Here is his summary of the ‘Quad V Moxon’ investigation…
Results
After using both antennas on the same transceiver over a period of 15 days with good and weak propagation, it gives me an idea about what the differences are between these antennas.
In fair propagation, any QSO with a station less than 4000 km away from my home QTH in Alagoas Brazil, the Moxon is winning against the Quad with 2-4 db more. Some stations can be heard with the Quad but all are quite readable with the Moxon.
From 4000 km to 8000 km, reports are relatively the same with the Quad and Moxon antennas……5/7 to 5/9 ++ most of the time.
Above 8000 km, the Quad is better than the Moxon and above 15000 km it’s a 4db difference on the signal meter.
On Long Path (LP) 20 000 km +, you can’t listen to the station with the Moxon but with the Quad you RX 5/9 with a 5/7 TX report.
During poor propagation, the differences are that on 8000 km QSO RX and TX report are 2db more on the Quad. On any QSO above this distance the difference is from 4db or more. Above 10 000 km there was no more copy on the Moxon antenna and still 5/5 on the Quad.
Conclusion
For me, the Moxon antenna is a good antenna and makes a great job for short to medium range contacts (less than 10 000 km). Above this distance, the Quad antenna is much better.
I must say also that the Moxon is more sensitive to QRM than the Quad.
But if beaming 360°, stations between 300° to 60° can be listened, but with the quad 270° to 90° . So the Moxon is more directive on reception than the Quad.
I have owned a 3 element conventional yagi antenna before and must say that the Moxon works better than this one.
EX:
30-10-2012 16:37:34 | 3DA012 | 27610 | USB | BRAZIL | FRENCH POLYN | 201AT/FO002 | WKD | 59 Olivier on Moxon / Tahiti isle OC-046/SP/Simplex/11900Km |
30-10-2012 10:14:37 | 3DA012 | 27580 | USB | BRAZIL | NETHERLANDS | 19AC521 | WKD | Mr Mari RR59+ / TX 140S- 200W- gp27 antenna / 7800 Km |
Both with Moxon same report with Quad on 201 RX report no QSB with quad.
30-10-2012 23:39:32 | 3DA012 | 27545 | USB | BRAZIL | INDONESIA | 91DD018 | WKD | 59 Dave / LP / Jakarta / 23190 Km |
This QSO was with the Quad. Dave couldn’t hear me on the Moxon and it’s the same for me.
01-11-2012 14:39:54 | 3DA012 | 27660 | USB | BRAZIL | ARGENTINA | 4SD/DI | WKD | 59 on Moxon- Mark ITL Demarchi isle – 3800 Km |
01-11-2012 14:25:38 | 3DA012 | 27495 | USB | BRAZIL | LIECHTENSTEI | 40FAT/DX | WKD | 55 on Moxon ITL/ Simplex / 7600 Km |
For both QSO, weak copy on Quad and nice one on Moxon.
01-11-2012 23:50:03 | 3DA012 | 27530 | USB | BRAZIL | NEW CALEDONI | 172AT/FK215 | WKD | 41 to 51 Philippe -qsb – kendek isle oc-032 -ITL |
01-11-2012 21:50:15 | 3DA012 | 27630 | USB | BRAZIL | FRENCH POLYN | 201AT/FO010 | WKD | 59 Olivier -ITL-Moorea isl -OC-046 -SP |
First one was only possible with the quad and on 201 QSO -2dbs on Moxon.
05-11-2012 22:05:53 | 3DA012 | 27640 | USB | BRAZIL | COOK IS. | 250PAS/0 | WKD | 59 Giovanni -Cook isl OC-013 – SP – 13000km |
RX report on Moxon 5/5 to 5/2
10-11-2012 21:55:30 | 3DA012 | 27650 | USB | BRAZIL | COOK IS. | 250PAS/OC013 | WKD | 53 Giovanni Rarotonga isl. 13000km SP |
The radio report was 2/1 on Moxon and no QSO was possible.
In my opinion, it would be interesting to test a 6 element Moxon. The difference between the Quad and this unique type of wire antenna might then be smaller or perhaps there’ll be none?!?!
Station Environment
The equipment used for my testing was:
- Yaesu FT-950
- Heil Pro Set Plus and Heil Pro Set Elite Headset
- 4 elements quad 5.7 meter boom – 10 ° take off angle at 11meters high
- 4 elements wired Moxon -0° take off antenna at 11 meters high also
- Antennas are 10 meters distance one from the other.
If you have any questions then please do not hesitate to email me in person at
Thanks for the great comparison.
I’ve been looking at a quad vs a moxon for 6 meter meteor scatter, FT8, USB (i.e. bottom of the band).
Very interesting comparison and helpful.
I am going to get a quad in springtime for sure now.
73’s de VE8AP
Thanks Roger, am cogitating building a moxon, to test it it for my location. As you know, I have been using various sized quads for 30+ years.
Hny, 73 de Jeremy, 23DA330
Thx for the comparison Roger, very informative.
73 de 43DA751
Hi Roger, thank you very much for this Test. What would be interesting for me is where is the difference between the 6 element Moxon and a simple 4 element. If you take the specification of 4 element Quad and Specifications of 4 element Moxon…
Good job and thank you, Roger!
73 de Uli, 13DA110
Nice to see your results Roger
I run a 3el HPSD Yagi at 30meters
And i am trying to decide to go with
a five ele yagi our a 4el Quad i need
somthing with a better RX ..